Comments on: A Full and Complete Definition of Buprenorphine http://www.meditoxofpalmbeach.com/blog/a-full-and-complete-definition-of-buprenorphine/ News and Observations from the Fight Against Painkiller Addiction Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:03:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Kelly http://www.meditoxofpalmbeach.com/blog/a-full-and-complete-definition-of-buprenorphine/#comment-2162 Kelly Sun, 17 Aug 2008 02:14:03 +0000 http://www.meditoxofpalmbeach.com/blog/a-full-and-complete-definition-of-buprenorphine/#comment-2162 I have been detoxing from Suboxone for seven days and it is hell. Tapered down to 1 mg or less and the pain is almost the same as methadone but longer withrdrawal time. Does anyone know how much longer the withdrawals are if I just go cold turkey? I have been detoxing from Suboxone for seven days and it is hell. Tapered down to 1 mg or less and the pain is almost the same as methadone but longer withrdrawal time. Does anyone know how much longer the withdrawals are if I just go cold turkey?

]]> By: Valeria http://www.meditoxofpalmbeach.com/blog/a-full-and-complete-definition-of-buprenorphine/#comment-330 Valeria Sat, 26 Jan 2008 07:41:29 +0000 http://www.meditoxofpalmbeach.com/blog/a-full-and-complete-definition-of-buprenorphine/#comment-330 Right, yes. I'm familiar with the definitions. It's interesting that you use the word "prophylactically," though. It brings to mind a number of really interesting metaphorical images. It's also interesting that you report feeling dope at all when used on top of Suboxone, especially when it's purported to be a "blocking" drug. Anymore clarification on that? Like how much or what the ultimate effect is, the thought process behind it? Right, yes. I’m familiar with the definitions. It’s interesting that you use the word “prophylactically,” though. It brings to mind a number of really interesting metaphorical images. It’s also interesting that you report feeling dope at all when used on top of Suboxone, especially when it’s purported to be a “blocking” drug. Anymore clarification on that? Like how much or what the ultimate effect is, the thought process behind it?

]]> By: Z http://www.meditoxofpalmbeach.com/blog/a-full-and-complete-definition-of-buprenorphine/#comment-328 Z Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:41:50 +0000 http://www.meditoxofpalmbeach.com/blog/a-full-and-complete-definition-of-buprenorphine/#comment-328 The only difference between Buprenex/Subutex & Suboxone, other than delivery method, is that Suboxone also has Naloxone in it. Naloxone is the drug that pulls people instantly out of overdoses. It's used here prophylatically to prevent junkies from using opiates on top of buprenorphine (common, active ingredient in all 3 meds mentioned above). Naloxone sits upon the same brain receptors that opiates do, if u take suboxone while opiates are still in ur system u get violently dope sick. If ur clean and taking suboxone as maintenance and use opiates on top of the suboxone, u have to use a lot more dope and it won't work as well. Dope won't work/feel right for the 2-3 days it takes to get the subox out of ur system. The only difference between Buprenex/Subutex & Suboxone, other than delivery method, is that Suboxone also has Naloxone in it. Naloxone is the drug that pulls people instantly out of overdoses. It’s used here prophylatically to prevent junkies from using opiates on top of buprenorphine (common, active ingredient in all 3 meds mentioned above). Naloxone sits upon the same brain receptors that opiates do, if u take suboxone while opiates are still in ur system u get violently dope sick. If ur clean and taking suboxone as maintenance and use opiates on top of the suboxone, u have to use a lot more dope and it won’t work as well. Dope won’t work/feel right for the 2-3 days it takes to get the subox out of ur system.

]]> By: Valeria http://www.meditoxofpalmbeach.com/blog/a-full-and-complete-definition-of-buprenorphine/#comment-322 Valeria Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:07:02 +0000 http://www.meditoxofpalmbeach.com/blog/a-full-and-complete-definition-of-buprenorphine/#comment-322 Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm always interested to hear people's differing views. As for Buprenex, though, I don't think that's really an option anymore. From what I've read, all of the research done on the efficacy of Suboxone does not apply to Buprenex. I'll definitely check that out, though. Thanks for sharing your experience. I’m always interested to hear people’s differing views.

As for Buprenex, though, I don’t think that’s really an option anymore. From what I’ve read, all of the research done on the efficacy of Suboxone does not apply to Buprenex. I’ll definitely check that out, though.

]]> By: Z http://www.meditoxofpalmbeach.com/blog/a-full-and-complete-definition-of-buprenorphine/#comment-317 Z Thu, 24 Jan 2008 20:19:49 +0000 http://www.meditoxofpalmbeach.com/blog/a-full-and-complete-definition-of-buprenorphine/#comment-317 There is a kick off of buprenorphine and if you take really high doses with no decreased taper you will have very severe side effects. Kind of a cross between a methadone kick and a dope kick. If you take it right it works really well and the kick is mild (if that even - you build a tolerance to it too). I've been taking it for 4 years (nobody'd heard of it then, trust me) both for withdrawal experiences (oops, my bad) and to address chronic pain (this was when the docs were still saying it was non-addictive, etc). It's a VERY controlled substance for a reason. The buprenex form (IM/IV) works the best and quickest, at smaller doses, than does the subutex form (sub-lingual)and both of those are more efficaceous than suboxone (in my opinion and 2 other close friends' experience). There is a kick off of buprenorphine and if you take really high doses with no decreased taper you will have very severe side effects. Kind of a cross between a methadone kick and a dope kick. If you take it right it works really well and the kick is mild (if that even - you build a tolerance to it too). I’ve been taking it for 4 years (nobody’d heard of it then, trust me) both for withdrawal experiences (oops, my bad) and to address chronic pain (this was when the docs were still saying it was non-addictive, etc). It’s a VERY controlled substance for a reason. The buprenex form (IM/IV) works the best and quickest, at smaller doses, than does the subutex form (sub-lingual)and both of those are more efficaceous than suboxone (in my opinion and 2 other close friends’ experience).

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